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Syynä se että menin sanomaan yhdelle kaverille siitä että kaiutin, lähinnä bassopää, kannattaa olla ohutkalvoinen jotta se toistaa muutakin kuin tuminaa.
Tässä lainaus tuosta vastauksesta:
" A basic education for you on speaker physics and technology
Switch to a heavier duty subwoofer and you'll find out immediately that you're completely wrong.
The frequency reproduction of a speaker is determined by cone size, not material meaning, the smaller the inner circle of the cone, the more highs it reproduces and the larger the outer circle of the cone, the lower the frequencies it reproduces.
Therefore your bass frequencies are SLOW frequencies and your highs are FAST frequencies. For maximum projection and resonance of highs, you use a thin, small cone with minimal excursion because it needs to move fast. For maximum projection and resonance of lows, you use a thick large cone with a large excursion because it needs to move slow to accurately project these frequencies. With a small amount of excursion, your bass is in fact very inaccurate and the only benefit is a high end adding clarity and detail to your bass giving the IMPRESSION that it's cleaner and more precise but believe me, it absolutely isn't.
If you used a thick, large cone and surround with a large excursion to reproduce highs, they wouldn't be able to project properly now would they?
The EXACT same is true with lows and it's exactly what you're doing.
Paper speakers with accordion surrounds are quite simply the best overall performer. They can produce a good amount of highs, mids and lows but aren't truly designed to be dedicated to any specific frequency spectrum though they do have their own unique frequency reproduction curve which will determine what tones they will reproduce best.
Professional sound companies that still use paper woofers with accordion surrounds for subwoofer systems do so because they're ignorant and basing their systems on outdated technology and beliefs of the past. You'll find an awful lot of modern sound companies do in fact use thick coned subwoofers with large rubber surrounds and thick cones for their subwoofer systems in these modern times where we now understand the physics of sound far greater than we did 80 years ago which is the technology paper speakers like yours are still based on.
Still don't agree?
That's fine but you're wrong, this is absolute and the simple laws of Acoustic Physics.
Don't get me wrong, paper speakers tend to sound good and can deliver some very impressive bass but are truly outperformed acoustically in every way measurable by a subwoofer with a thick dense cone and large rubber surround with a vast excursion. But interesting enough, the VERY best cone material that exists no matter what frequencies you are reproducing isn't paper, it isn't silk, it isn't titanium, kevlar, polycarnonate etc.
The VERY best material for a cone is in fact solid wood.
Do some research on wood cone speakers, they're rare to find and expensive because they're difficult to produce but by far the very best.
Regards,
jON dEATH "
Syynä se että menin sanomaan yhdelle kaverille siitä että kaiutin, lähinnä bassopää, kannattaa olla ohutkalvoinen jotta se toistaa muutakin kuin tuminaa.
Tässä lainaus tuosta vastauksesta:
" A basic education for you on speaker physics and technology
Switch to a heavier duty subwoofer and you'll find out immediately that you're completely wrong.
The frequency reproduction of a speaker is determined by cone size, not material meaning, the smaller the inner circle of the cone, the more highs it reproduces and the larger the outer circle of the cone, the lower the frequencies it reproduces.
Therefore your bass frequencies are SLOW frequencies and your highs are FAST frequencies. For maximum projection and resonance of highs, you use a thin, small cone with minimal excursion because it needs to move fast. For maximum projection and resonance of lows, you use a thick large cone with a large excursion because it needs to move slow to accurately project these frequencies. With a small amount of excursion, your bass is in fact very inaccurate and the only benefit is a high end adding clarity and detail to your bass giving the IMPRESSION that it's cleaner and more precise but believe me, it absolutely isn't.
If you used a thick, large cone and surround with a large excursion to reproduce highs, they wouldn't be able to project properly now would they?
The EXACT same is true with lows and it's exactly what you're doing.
Paper speakers with accordion surrounds are quite simply the best overall performer. They can produce a good amount of highs, mids and lows but aren't truly designed to be dedicated to any specific frequency spectrum though they do have their own unique frequency reproduction curve which will determine what tones they will reproduce best.
Professional sound companies that still use paper woofers with accordion surrounds for subwoofer systems do so because they're ignorant and basing their systems on outdated technology and beliefs of the past. You'll find an awful lot of modern sound companies do in fact use thick coned subwoofers with large rubber surrounds and thick cones for their subwoofer systems in these modern times where we now understand the physics of sound far greater than we did 80 years ago which is the technology paper speakers like yours are still based on.
Still don't agree?
That's fine but you're wrong, this is absolute and the simple laws of Acoustic Physics.
Don't get me wrong, paper speakers tend to sound good and can deliver some very impressive bass but are truly outperformed acoustically in every way measurable by a subwoofer with a thick dense cone and large rubber surround with a vast excursion. But interesting enough, the VERY best cone material that exists no matter what frequencies you are reproducing isn't paper, it isn't silk, it isn't titanium, kevlar, polycarnonate etc.
The VERY best material for a cone is in fact solid wood.
Do some research on wood cone speakers, they're rare to find and expensive because they're difficult to produce but by far the very best.
Regards,
jON dEATH "
